Is Freedom Of Speech Becoming A Thing Of The Past?
First of I would like to state I am not from America, I am from Ireland. I have been to America
on a few occasions both on holidays & on business and it was fantastic.
But the destruction of many of America’s civil liberties both disturbs me & sends a shiver down my spine.
I’m sure by now you have seen the video of the student being tasered by police after
asking John Kerry a few tough questions. If you haven’t, I have put links to it below.
This kid got assaulted & tasered by police for simply asking questions of a politician!
Just think about that – In “The Land Of The Free”
Thomas Jefferson said:
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
This may be a sensitive topic to bring up but I feel strongly about it. If you want to f*** me out of it feel free to do so
this is an open forum, if you agree with me that these kind of actions are deeply disturbing & go against
all that America stands for I’d love to hear from you too.
I don’t know what else to say so I will leave Abraham Lincoln do the talking:
Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves – Abraham Lincoln
Links to the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBcOQkUNjI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag&mode=related&search=
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I agree with you, Mark. America is going down the crapper! I live in the USA, and I’m thoroughly disgusted with the way things are being handled around here, especially in regards to the government.
Now, in the USA, they believe in the separation of church and state. If that’s so…then why are half of the politicians in my own state New Jersey, having spots in the local government, and then taking bribes and extorting citizens and businesses for money?
This country disgusts me. You can hate on me if you want, but when I finally get rich from the internet marketing thing, expect me and my family to pack up and leave the damn country.
Hi Mark,
I have to say I’m with you on this one. What a sickening sight. I had to shut it off – the sound of the young man screaming made me feel ill. I think this illiberality is insidiously creeping into many western democracies. After all it wasn’t that long ago that an elderly gentleman was forcibly ejected from the labour party conference, in the UK, for showing pretty mild dissent.
At all costs we have to continue to remind politicians they are in power to serve the people and as such they must be open to scrutiny and tough questioning.
Good for you Mark to raise this topic on your blog.
Rgds
Nick Wymer
http://fastdogtraining.blogspot.com/
The saddest part of this incident is the lack of action and/or concern taken by the speaker to defuse the situation. Certainly did not project the image of a man of action ?
Hello Mark, yes it is a sad state of affairs.
I reside in Canada; I am sure this same ‘type’
of ‘action’ by ‘powers that be’ takes place
thousands of times a day all over the ‘civilized’
countries of the world.
If this is Freedom; What is Next on the ‘Agenda’?
If you ‘kick’ a dog enough, it Will ‘bite back’.
Revolution/Evolution in the offing ???
We get what we vote for. Don’t blame the country!!
In Illinois we have corrupt aldermen,governors and politicians. We vote the same party in time after time,and we have the highest taxes,richest politicians. We are due for another sales tax increase to new heights. (11%). Too many citizens want and want and want. And they get. except the working stiff, he gets the bill
I love term limits.
Hi Mark, It’s interesting that you, from Ireland, can see so clearly what many of our citizens refuse to acknowledge or deal with. Our country is in a time of real turmoil and difficulty. But… we are waking up, slowly but surely the American patriotic public is starting to make some waves into the system. I am one of the patriotic believers and know that we will not only survive this assault on our liberties but end up stronger for it. We ALL MUST let our closed ear representatives in the House and Senate know that we are sick and tired of their self serving legislation and actions which do not represent the beliefs and desires of We the People. The reformation of America is in its infant stages but is smoldering and gaining strength. An organization which is dear to my heart because of my Veteran status is http://www.eaglesup.us who are rallying to support America, our President and our Soldiers. We love America and are working to restore control of it to the People. Thanks for hearing me.
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Yes Mark I saw this earlier in the week, and was most upset. I have been in the US many times, and had countless discussions with Americans who believe the are in the land of the free. Freedom of speech means having to listen to stuff that you strongly disagree with, but respecting the individuals right to have that point of view. Just look at the racist way US commentators comedians etc treat the French, just because they had their own opinion on a situation. I agree with Steve C about the lack of intervention on the speaker, or fellow students part. Try that here in Scotland.
Come on. The new movie , No End In Sight, misses the whole point. The only thing that was protected in Baghdad was the oil industry, so basically Rumsfeld (haliburton) is making money hand over fist. All that chaos is just a smokescreen to take the worlds eyes off the oil. Then there is the 40 billion that disappeared (oops, thats the old Bush/Cheney new world order, as long as they run the world and have all the money. Whats worse is that they have Congress scared shitless, why else are they so terrified of the word impeachment. Bush is responsible for murdering over 400 thousand people and breaking every law in the constitution that he swore to uphold, yet not one word of impeachment. Clinton, on the other hand, might have got his dick sucked, so we spend 200 million to investigate and impeach. Only 4 million was spent on the whole 9/11 commission. Why? Because it was a false flag perpetrated by Bush/Cheney to take away our civil rights and do away with the Constitution. And, they are succeeding.
Hey Dan,
Yes, I agree that Andrew staged it. However, in my opinion, the situation is just another example of Americans being shut up. In the context of what is happening now in America, Andrew’s story is nothing. However,when put with other things that are happening, a picture forms.
Nothing anti-Bush allowed.Even those wearing protest t-shirts are not allowed. Anti-War Protesters fined $30,000 because of PASTE?? Amnesty again being voted on TODAY when Americans went CRAZY trying to stop it this summer. Americans only getting half of any story on the so-called “news”. Almost EVERY Presidential Candidate voting to give our Social Security to ILLEGAL Immigrants when it doesn’t even cover AMERICANS! Cities in our Country violating Federal Law with NO consequences.(refuge cities) Politician after Politician being found out for crimes, ethical violations, bribery, etc. Frankly, the list goes on and on and on. It is a terrible thing, but Canada is starting to look good to me…and not because I don’t love my Country.It’s just that..it isn’t my Country anymore. I don’t hardly recognize this Government as our leaders..as they aren’t listening to the American Citizens anyway. I am ashamed of this Government that terrorizes its own citizens so that they can line their pockets. Or for Power. I am tired of being sheep for the Government, aren’t you?
Sorry Mark, typed the wrong name. (blush)
I agree with you Mark America has lost almost all of it’s freedoms. I have often thought of relocating to another country as I can see communism is on the rise. We can’t seem to make any decisions of our own. I now it seems we have also lost our freedom of speech.
I think the John Kerry, The school and the police should all be punished for their parts in this. The police for their brutal attack on this boy and the others for not standing up and helping him in his time of need. I hope he sues the pants off all of them and wins big!
I am in total agreement with the rest of the comments.
I would also like to ask why, no one else did a thing.
Everybody just sat there watching like it was some sort of TV reality show. If nobody says anything then the police and the politicians are going to do whatever they want.
There may not be room to say what I want to say, but, here goes. I am a very senior person, a Conservative, and a firm believer of a person being totally responsible for every-thing he/she says, thinks and does.
Like the person who is going to make his fortune here, hates America, and going to move out as soon as gets rich. I have a couple of suggestions for that person, but I’ll just say ” why not get out now and make your fortune in the place you will go to”.
Yes, America is heading down hill. In my opinion, it started back with Franklin D. Roosevelt who put Social Security into play. Supposedly as a way to supplement incomes for the aged upon retirement. Good thought it would seem, but that was the first step to entitlements and the beginning of people gradually losing that independent feeling of being fully responsible for self, and more and more looking for the government for a hand out.
Then you have a political party that lives on promising to give the people more and more for doing less and less. How to do that, more taxes. Make more promises and stay in office where all the power over people is. As the man said, When the government tells the people, instead of people telling the government, you have troubles and loss of freedom, and eventually economic and personal disasters. After that the picture gets very scary for us who remember and know what it’s like to love America, and will defend it, and take responsibility for it.
As for taser, and those who say brutality, there is certain decorum for public meetings, called respect. The man was deliberately trying to disrupt the meeting, did, and wouldn’t stop. I do not care for Kerry, but he has a right to the freedoms too. What happened is also part of what is wrong in America. And it is going to get even worse. Beware the power of the Universal Law of Cause and Effect. It works all the time and forever. CJ
So often the media shows you what they want to. It can be very slanted. On places like YouTube, you again will only see what they want you to. Please read Dan Moran’s blog http://www.askdanmoran.com/blog/ and you will find out that this was a STAGED event. The politician may not have reacted because he could see it coming. Something you would not see from a different camera angle. As is so often, the person who yells the loudest gets the most attention–whether they are right or wrong. Don’t blame the country because some idiot wanted to get his face in the news.
I am an American–and very proud of it–even with all our problems this IS a GREAT country to live in.
If you are an American, you should talk about what “we” do, not what “they” do as TM Harris did. And what on earth does the separation of church and state have to do with taking bribes?
Mark,
You seem to be a student of American history and I would have to agree with you that we (I use that term, because it is up to the citizens of any country to make the difference) have let the politicians become the rulers.
We need to get back to the Constitution and get rid of most of the ‘leaders’ and replace them with those that will support the Constitution (like Ron Paul).
As far as Mr. Harris, go where ever you want, you are part of what is wrong with the USA. Americans will fight for what is right, others run. It is time for another ‘American Revolution’ – not with guns, but with votes.
Sorry for the rambling.
Ed
well Mark,
I am just old enough to remember the lATE 60′S EARLY 70′S
Like you I’m not American,I’m an Aussie living in UK presently,..
Remember Kent State ,
“tin soldiers and nixon comming
we’re finally on our own
this summer I hear the drumming
forgetting Ohio
what will you when you find her dead on the ground.
how can you run when you know!”
well all I can say is the youth of today has become complacent and molded into submission by the state machine,
back then, the body of students you saw just sitting by letting this happpen would have mobbed those
uniformed control freaks and set there fellow student free!
Thats what really worries me,
the apathy, the loss of will to protest against our governments when thye go down the wrong path….
Would the Iraq situation ever have got to this if the youth of today had the ethics and will to try and change the course of their world, instead of sitting meekly by in the hope of preserving some creditble future for themselves
in a world sensible people know cannot continue ,ie is
unsustainable and will eventually imnplode on itself.
well, bring on the next revolution in conciousness I say…
and stand up for your rights, and your brothers rights.
mind you, sime of the posts on utube by right wing americans kinda scare me too.
in a country so powerful and so obviously under the control of some secret society of power mad crazy men,
so many think they are rightous and beyong reproach…
the end of free speech is the end of democracy
and ive witnessed that here in the UK over the last year.
but students in a student forum, thats where the great minds of tomorrow are developing
they should never be silenced..
Until the sheep start to think for themselves, the sheep dogs are going to continue to herd them where ever they want to and sheer them when ever they feel like it.
Well anyone who hasn’t watched Farenheit 911 or read Michael Moore’s book “Stupid White Men” might be forgiven for being surprised. You went to Afghanistan to find Osama Bin Laden didn’t you ? Osama was a close pal of Bush’s almost regareded as a cousin. and have they found him ? no have they buggery.
Bush Invaded Iraq because he said that the attack on th twin towers was orchestrated from there but it wasn’t.
In England we were told that Sadam could fire intercontinental ballistic missiles at us in 45 minutes. That’s funny because Hans Blick hadn’t found any in 8 years !
So what is the link ? oh yes OIL!
PS..sorry for the typos,
still trying to spell properly on a laptop keyboard
butn i think the gist is there!
I live in the US and I also have to say that the country is going down the drain! In my humble opinion, we are fast becoming a police nation instead of a free nation.
It is no longer “of the people and by the people” it is all by the government and by the rich and powerful!
I do, however, place a small portion of the blame on us,the American public, also. We will not band together as one and stand against the government. Every faction has their own agenda and can not seem to come together.
I have known for yrs that we are in trouble and its not poor little george’s fault, it all started yrs ago with the shooting of JFK when he didnt listen to the people who really run our so-called free country. He didnt supply the air cover he said he would for the Bay of Pigs invasion, then he was going to go on TV on Thanksgiving day and tell the nation the boys were coming home from Viet Nam well as we all know he didnt make it. We had 2500 boys there, by Christmas Day we had 53,000 boys there does that should tell ya they Scared the Hell out of Lyndon Johnson, and now we see the same starting all again, its time to standup and say enough is enough. Our young people better start standing up for our God givin rights of Liberty and Freedom before their gone, Larry
Couldn’t agree more Mark, however forget the land of the free bullshit, this is happening all over the place, here in the UK it is especially bad. Talk about a Nanny State!! i don’t think we are in any better a position than America. What can we do about it, well i can’t speak for our friends over the pond but here we don’t have an awful lot of choice, have you seen the choices of our political parties recently!!! the inaction of the students in the film could explain some of this, where are all the young idealistic future politicians, are you telling me in that room full of students there wasn’t one who felt outraged that the police had that power. Im not being funny here there were several coppers taking care of one, fairly non violent individual, sure he was loud, sure he was active but no violence was offered, indeed he offerred to get up and walk out. why could all those police officers not simply have escorted the man from the premises and why did they feel the need to actually taser a non violent protester. The same has happened here and banning protests in central london and heathrow, bans upheld by high court judges who should know better, do not help the cause of democracy.
Kudos to CJ Brehme and LuAnn Beckman for having the most objective comments about this event. Sometimes things are not what they first appear after closer investigation. This guy, it has been pointed out, is known for this kind of tactic to get attention. His screaming and crying out seem to have been more of an act than true pain. I agree that this country is in serious peril of losing it’s civil liberties, but the reasons for it go much, much deeper than some idiot college “kid” craving for attention not being allowed to make a big splash at some political event. He should have held his own event where he was the keynote speaker if he wanted so much to be heard. As was pointed out, there is an expected order to such an event and intentional disruption almost always leads to a police escort away from the scene no matter what the political views of each side involved.
i agree with you mark but that is what when our goverment no longer is by the people for the people like it should be.
Mark,
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America is going down the drain not because of the lack of freedom, -I have not lived in a place more free- but because of the bad use of it.
We are still talking about Utopia… we have not figured it out yet, but every time the sheep has made a revolution against the goverment…. the leaders of that revolution become tyrants and institute a goverment even worse. That’s the history lesson. America’s system is not perfect, it will never be. but it is the closest one. Where I come from, asking a question from a politician could mean losing your life or worse, live it in prison. Just a thought. I’ve seen it all, the beautiful, passionate words that lights up the revolution, and the sad aftermath, the dissapointment and impotency, I live now in the most secure place in the world. I live in America.
Sadly, no one stays with the story to get all of the facts. The “student” in question, set this up intentionally. He waited until the Q & A was finished before he got up to ask his question. He then refused to yield the floor. He continued his rant until security cam to remove him. Then he resisted his removal. Outside of the hall, he continued to resist, and was warned several times that his resistance would cause him to get tased. So what do we have here: An obnoxious kid intentionally disrupts a Q & A with John Kerry, depriving everyone else of their right to assemble in an orderly manner, he then gets tased for resistiung arrest, not for asking a question, and finally, we learn that he is a well know “practical joker,” who provided two video cameras to two other people in advance, so that he could get his antic on tape.
No sympathy here
Mark,
A good example of how far our moral decay has gone
Just received this week…
Moral Decay In The USA
“NBA (National Basketball Association) or NFL (National Football League)”
36 – have been acccused of spousal abuse
7 – have been arrested for fraud
19 – have been accused of writing bad checks
117 – have dierctly or indirectly bankrupted at least two businesses
3 – have done time for assault
71 – repeat 71, cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
8 – have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits, and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year
Can You Guess Which Organization This Is? NBA or NFL?
It is neither… it is the 535 members of the United States Congress!! The same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.
And they just voted themselves a $15,000 per month pension for life after serving only one term in congress!!
As far as freedom of speach goes, one can not tell another to drink lemonade, or orange juice to prevent colds and flu.
You are telling someone that a natural food product prevents or cures disaese. That is a NO NO! You can watch someone actually die of a disease that a natural product will wipe out 100%, but it is against the law to tell them about this product if it is a food or nutritional product.
The FDA and big pharma will not stand for someone telling another that there is a better way of eliminating many diseases than by drugs.
If you are a doctor and tell someone to take a supplement for their physical ailment, because there is no effective drug to offer, you will will loose your license to practice medicine if the FDA finds out about it.
I know first hand… my wife has an incurable horrid spinal cord disease that no drug or medication can help… but no one is permitted to tell her that there really is a product from nature that will greatly help her. God help us all!
Bob K
“Mark, the only people to be held responsible for the liberties and freedoms being systematically taken from the people are the people themselves.”
Ilias Glenis – Director
http://www.MyMonkBuddy.com
Hi, Mark, first time seeing your blog and leaving a msg. I tend to agree with all you guys. I am a Texas lady and we have serious issues that need to be resolved in our County. Our Congress needs overhauling and limited to time one can hold office. I am especially concerned about the social issues too. And, if Hillary Clinton gets in as President-Elect, I am leaving our good ole USA for somewhere else!
Mark,
I often find myself being quite impressed with the observations and comments of people who actually take the time to respond to forums or magazines etc. Most of your respondents have pretty good arguments. I’ll add one that has bothered me for a while….
This incident with Mr. Kerry’s speech reflects the downward spiral of acceptable behavior our society has continued to allow amongst ‘law enforcement’ officials. I would invite anyone to pick up your local paper and see how easy it is to find examples of police brutality or at least impropriety. Sure they can hide behind the protection of legalese phrases like “I feared for my safety” or “I had formed a reasonable suspicion of a threat..” and so on. These manipulations of language are the professional handiwork of lawyers and legislators. They are used as smoke screens to cast validity upon acts mostly motivated by ego and testosterone. Does anyone else wonder like I do just how far removed most cops are from the very criminal elements they’re supposed to be protecting us from? Cops today do not inspire the feelings of safety they once did. The law-abiding amongst us have as much to fear from their unbridled machismo and aggression as the common thug who doesn’t care about laws or civilized behavior. Thank goodness for the media, who exist as watchdog elements on these dark aspects of daily life. Sure television and movies and even the news have their own inherent problems of sensationalism and excess…they are enterprises of human beings and we are far from perfect. But were it not for the media….or just someone with a camera…how many of these abusive police acts would be swept under the carpet by the good ol’ boys club mentality of fellow cops and lawyers? And lost in all the detritus of excessive force and harassment is the fact that real criminals get pathetically lenient reprimands and revisit the streets to terrorize the rest of us again and again. Why? Well, the lawyers can answer to that. And cops are likely to take the path of least resistence, harrowing normal people for miniscule transgressions to satisfy their bullying instincts instead of taking on the real dangers of society. Now, part of the blame lies with our lawmakers, who are so concerned with the civil rights of criminals they forget about the civil protections the rest of us should have a right to enjoy. Lawyers of course are happy to hang their shingles on a practice based upon double-talk and deception to strike a chord with the disenfranchised and make a name for themselves as championing the cause of the ‘wrongly accused’. So, we need not worry about our lack of free speech as much as we need to worry about the people making our laws, and especially about the people enforcing them. We need a judicial system with the gonads to really punish in accordance with the degree of the offense, and we need law enforcement to take more pride in exisiting as a protective agency and not just a legitimized occupation that serves as a repository of grossly over-aggressive individuals who need an outlet for their hostility. Many, not all of course….but many police officers shouldn’t even be allowed to HAVE tasers in the first place; let alone firearms. Remember, our freedom of speech only matters if we can speak without fear of reprisal. When we permit law enforcement to start judging whether our speech or our behavior is ‘threatening’, then we better make DAMN sure those law enforcement officials have good judgement themselves. We are not as far away from a ‘police state’ as we may believe. Only constant exposure of events like Mr. Kerry’s speech will keep us aware enough to know that some of the biggest threats to our individual freedoms lie within our own system itself.
Hi Mark,
I agree with you 100%. This Country is going to Hell in a Handbasket. We are no longer the Land of the Free. More and more of our constitutional rights are being challenged everyday. I also agree with the post above, If Hilary Clinton becomes President…..I’m outta here.
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Etta Carroll
http://www.marketershaven.com
To all those Americans that would leave the USA if Hillary were elected president …. where would you go?
Have you spent any time in the “shitholes” to our South. Have you ever asked yourselves why so many people are coming to the USA, legally or illegally.
We are the best thing there is in the whole world … Hillary or no Hillary.
I would not vote for her. But, what can she do to really make things worse for you here, than some other politician can do to you anywhere else in the world?
I know people who are planning to retire to northern Thialand because the government and the police are sympathetic to US military personnel. What happens when that government changes?
Ours may change or evolve but it won’t happen drastically or violently. No one here has the guts or the power to do away with our Constitution or desolve the governemnt like Putin recently did in Russia.
When did we, as individuals, stop fighting for what we believe in? If you don’t want Hillary ( a leftist ) or Romney ( a conservative ) in power for the next four years, go out an work to get your candidate elected. Don’t just sit there and then complain when your candidate loses … DO SOMETHING.
And, think about what you do. Don’t just buy the party line as I see in so many comments above.
Research and study.
If you hear one point of view, find out what the other side is saying. Don’t buy a bag of “crap” because it agrees with some warped idealogy you developed along the way.
Politicians will “lie” or tell you what you want to hear, as long as you accept that from them.
Don’t think like a Democrat or a Republican
Think for yourself.
Think like an AMERICAN.
Hi Mark and Everyone Else!
I agree with just about everyone else.It seems to me that “Freedom of Speech” has become freedom “from” speech over the past 10-20 years here,in the good ol’ US of A. What passes for entertainment on TV has desensitized its watchers to violence and injustice to their fellow human beings and,frankly, makes me ill.
The biggest problem I see is that the dippy-hippies from the sixties, who did waaay too many “good” drugs Then, have become the “establishment” they so hated Now. Politics has become the national soap opera.
At best,on election day,we have to choose between the lesser of two evils, if we’re lucky.My idea is to choose the roster of candidates for all public offices from the taxpayer rolls, like we do juries, and limit their terms of public service to 4 or 6 years. The states should be paying their salaries, not the federal government. And lobbying, by other than private citizens from the congress man or woman’s constituency, should be abolished. Lets face it, nobody who WANTS to be a politician should be allowed anywhere near the House, Senate, or the White House.
PS to the person who wrote about aspartame, I agree it’s poison. It has made me violently ill the two times I’ve had the misfortune to ingest it. Just want to add that diet soda and some regular soda has sodium benzoate in it, which blocks calcium absorption. Can you say osteoperosis? not to mention bad teeth and countless other problems.
Thanks for letting me spout off!
In some ways I agree with most of the others, but that a show off should be repeatedly tased by our wonderful police, just because they can makes me sick. I have bee watching the country I love go to hell for many years, and would join any group to rebel against the way our government leaders are, about all public officials, our police and how they feel free to do whatever they feel to people. I am getting up there for that 61 but the biggest problem is my health, it goes down worse daily. Talk about aspartame, you better start researching every thing you buy in the supermarket, fast food places and etc. Our government responsible for this part of our health are allowing the big manufacturers to do whatever they want, putting pesticides on our food, feeding annimals hormones, and anibiotics and God knows whatelse even if it is the cause of many diseases, all that matters is the money they exchange, the same with our Pharmaceutical giants, they are allowed to list as food manufacturers what they choose but are always allowed to add several things I have read 7 that does’nt have to be listed. I have begun studying the organic foods road and the vitamins and nutrients that are so talked down. I began some vitamins herbs for my arthritis and felt much less pain in 3 days, I am now on 19 perscriptions that I feel are literally killing me and I will get off them and improve my own health, doctors are’nt about to it all comes down to the money if we aren’t sick how can doctors, pharmaceutical giants, food giants and on and on get there money. To bad if we are disabled or dead for it. The one person that stated no one is allowed to tell his wife what natural would cure her, take her to a holistic center and they will give you the names of doctors, or to a good health food store for information on the doctors they know of. Study books from the library, you don’t need anyone to tell you really you can find it all in the library. No one yet, though they do try can disallow us the right to read and research till we find a cure or a doctor who practices natural medicine. There really are more than you may think. I refuse to let the ???? say what I can and can’t take it is my body and I will take whatever I damn well please if I can find out about it and where it is sold. Right here on this internet is one of the best places to begin your research and save yourself. As for this country, I do love America but I detest all politicians as they are all for one to old to be making up the rules for everyone else, ya know some must be in the upper 80’s or more. They all lie of there intentions, and for some reason we have no say I know of about who runs. The ones that can get enough money and are wanted by the parties they run for. Why can’t we just be one people. Me I am not a Republican or a Democrat barf to both. But I am a person who trusts nothing that comes out of the mouths of these wonderful people. I don’t know how to change it or if thats possible. I would have voted for Russ Paroe (mispelled I know but I can’t remember his name for sure) but I do remember how he was treated by the other great parties and they were so affraid of him he was threatened and I do believe that out of even running just as any other non party person is. Oh well I talked enough but I could go on for days probabaly about how I feel about this government, the war, our military dieing and for what really. That one causes me arguments even at home, but I see no reason we have to take care of every other nation or country, they don’t even want us there and as for ben who pulled off the 9/11 event you never hear about him being hunted and that was why I thought we went there now look how many more of our young have died for I am not sure what to make our Pres look good, he is nothing but bs to me and thats a very light description. I have to shut up but Thanks Mark this is the first time I have ever done this guess I can only get worse on this subject though.
Mark,
The USA is not perfect. Our leaders in all branches of government at all levels have lots of “warts”. But, the fact that people from every corner of the world will do anything to come here is a strong testament to the proposition that our country is a wonderful place to live. In my 75+ years, I have seen much change take place . . . some good, some bad. The technilogical advancements that we have experienced, including the space industry (which I was very privileged to be a part of), transportation, medicine, electronics, and many more, have been absolutely amazing and beneficial to mankind. However, in other areas we have started down a very slippery slope. Instead of statesmen, we have (to a very great extent) only politicians who put political party above country. Instead of promoting morals, we champion and cheer immorality. Instead of being responsible, we blame everyone else for all of our problems. We should keep in mind that freedom and personal responsibility come as a package. We do not get one without the other.
In our democracy, we live under a system of laws, regulations, and rules which adhere (supposedly) to the constitution. In past years, almost all citizens willingly respected and adhered to those laws, regulations, and rules. Those who did not were punished to the appropriate degree. That is simply the way any organized, free society must operate. Otherwise, there is anarchy, and anarchy leads quickly to chaos. If the police who subdued the obnoxious student did not follow correct and documented procedure, they should be appropriately delt with under the law. However, the entire country should not be blamed for their actions any more than we should be blamed for the student’s stupidity. In other words, again, those envolved are responsible for their own actions, and should be judged accordingly.
I totally agree with the above statements by C. J. Brehme, LuAnn Beckman, Jeff Chaffin, and Gray Dog. Also, I applaud Mack’s statement. Good for you, Mack. They all sound like they have been around long enough to experience some fiery trials that produced some wisdom.
Thanks, Mark, for the forum.
This whole thing concerns me. I am an american and I love my country, but Iam highly concerned over our loss of rights.These films were disturbing. The voters her need to wak up and smell the coffee. It is time to let our voted in polations know who they work for which is WE the people. By the People and for the people. I see more and more of our rights being takin away from us and people not caring that they are. It is upsetting. By the way work with a company with integrity. http://www.shaliteam.com
Not only the boy who was tasered how about the boys who were imprisoned for fighting in LA. It’s a dirty down right shame the way some authorities abuse the law.
I am late on this but I had to say just a few things, I like the comments, but what’s the answer for this country? Can we fix it? I don’t know, I hope so! The people decide how the country will go and that is not looking good. We are all a part of a society and we all have an obligation and responsibility to it. Yes that means tolerance, but it also means inforcing bounderies and consequences. Why is it that because someone else doesn’t believe in the use of force/violence that I can’t protect my family? Yes people have the right to speak, but we have the right to say, we heard you now set down and shut up. Freedom is being able to live your life and choose your path, the boundary is you can not act in ways that are dangerous or harmful to the society. We are letting to many things go on that we need to stop, Why do we have cameras all over our schools to make sure our kids don’t do anything rong, and fighting cort battles because schools and teachers don’t want to test the same kids to see if they are learning anything? I have to long of a list so I will say, Kids are our future and if we cann’t get our schools to teach, and people to take pride in being parence, and stop rewarding laziness and start helping the ones who are trying to take care of their family, Nothing else matters! Thanks for reading this, If you want to know more about me, just search the name wokken stik
Hello, Well I can see what’s happening here. The World is a one big instant outlet. No more Security. No more the Good ole USA. WE live in a global society now, and our culture is reflecting that. First out with the moral, then the standards. Like this new Hate Speech Law that Kennedy wants past. He wants equal protection for all Americans? Our Constitution already provides this. But if He gets his law pass, then preaching parts of the Bible ( mainly against homosexuality) will get you thrown in prison with
felonies on your record and huge fines. Don’t think it can happen? It is already a law in Canada and other parts of the world. In the End Times they will call good, evil and evil good. Bryan
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