Bailout?纾困? Recession?衰退? What To Do?怎么办?

Posted by发布者 Mark Flavin马克文
September 25, 2008 at 7:45 pm 08年9月25号在晚上7:45

Panic!!惊恐! That’s what people seem to be doing at the moment.这就是人们似乎是在这样的时刻。 It’s the typical “We’ve got a problem, let’s throw money at it” solution: 700 Billion Dollars to be precise!!这是典型的“我们有一个问题,让钱扔在它”解决方案: 700亿美元准确! Below are video’s from the 2 main presidential candidates & one from a former presentational candidate. Who do you think makes the most sense? Leave your comments below:以下是视频,从2主要的总统候选人和一名来自前表象的候选人。 是谁,你认为使最有意义?留下您的评论如下:

Ron Paul 罗恩保罗


Barack Obama 奥巴马


John McCain 约翰麦凯恩


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  • Harry Martin Says: 哈里马丁说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:19 pm 08年9月25号在下午八时19

    Hey Mark,嗨马克,
    I have been with Ron Paul since the 1960’s.我一直在与保罗自20世纪60年代。 He walks the walk…..他走的走... .. The press knew that the way to get rid of Ron Paul as a Presidential possible, this year, was to “silence him,” and they did.He got more votes in some states than Rudy Guliana, but was never included in any of the debates, offered to all the other candidates!记者知道的方式摆脱保罗作为一个总统可能的,今年是“沉默他说: ”他们did.He获得更多的选票在一些国家比鲁迪Guliana ,但从来没有在任何辩论中,提供给所有其他候选人!
    Who was it that said,”I don’t care what you say about me, just be sure to spell my name right.” Also, “Any publicity is better than no publicity at all.”是谁这么说, “我不在乎你说的话对我来说,只是拼写务必我的名字的权利。 ”此外, “任何宣传总比没有在所有的宣传。 ”
    Obama is Muslum,has 147 days experience,has openly refused to pledge allegience to our flag,refused at first, to wear an American Flag lapel pin.奥巴马是Muslum ,已147天的经验,已公开拒绝宣誓效忠我们的国旗,拒绝在第一,穿上美国国旗襟针。 He got his wife’s employer a million dollar grant, and the very next year, she got a raise in her pay, from $102,000.00 up to他妻子的雇主100万美元赠款,并非常明年,她提出了她的工资,从十万二点〇 〇美元行动
    $304,000.00. $ 304,000.00 。 Not bad for a low level manager.Learn more, go to: theobamafile.com or exposeobama.com .First is best.不坏的低水平manager.Learn更多,请前往: theobamafile.com或exposeobama.com 。首先是最好的。 Thanks!谢谢!

  • Jim Hickey 吉姆希基 Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:28 pm 08年9月25号在下午8时28分

    Hi Mark,嗨马克,

    Worried, frightened, scared sh##less, how ever you want to word this.担心,害怕,害怕上海# #那么,如何以往任何时候都想要这个词。 This is the same Executive and Legislative group that has rushed us into Iraq on what they now admit was poor intelligence (of course the Senate Intelligence Committee knew that in the Fall of 2002 - before it started); now they’re rushing into another form of a bail out?这是相同的行政局和立法局集团,已经送往我们进入伊拉克,他们现在所承认的情报是穷人(当然,美国参议院情报委员会知道,在2002年秋季-前开始) ; ,现在他们急于到另一种形式一个保释外出? What is standing sitting at the root of this current situation; at least in part; the sub-prime issue which if they had addressed that issue and bailed out Main Street USA, perhaps we might have avoided this mess.什么是长期坐在这根目前的局势;至少部分;次贷的问题,如果他们讨论了这一问题,并摆脱美国主街,也许我们可能避免这种混乱。

    Lord help us all!主帮助我们大家!

  • shoppingkharma shoppingkharma Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:30 pm 08年9月25号下午8时30分

    Responding to Harry Martin’s uneducated post.针对哈里马丁公司的未受过教育的职位。
    Please do check out Snopes.com and they confirm the truth.请不要检查Snopes.com ,他们证实了的真理。 Obama is not muslim nor did he choose to be a black man, His parents named him and no when he was born he didn’t get a chance to tell his parents what name he would like them to name him.奥巴马是不是穆斯林,也没有选择,他是一个黑人男子,他的父母给他取名时,并没有出生,他没能有机会告诉他的父母什么名字,他希望他们的名字他。 Did you get your information from some spam email?难道你的资料,一些垃圾邮件?

    Here is the problem most have and correct me if I am wrong:这里的问题是大多数人并纠正我,如果我错了:

    If you grow up in Hawaii, are raised by your grandparents, you’re considered to be too “exotic, different”, but if you grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers you’re “a quintessential American story”?如果你长大了在夏威夷,是您提出的祖父母,您认为过于“异国情调,不同的” ,但如果你长大了在阿拉斯加驼鹿吃汉堡包你是“一个典型的美国故事” ?

    If you happen to graduate from Harvard Law School and at the top of your class and you are “unstable”, but if you attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re “well grounded”?如果你碰巧毕业于哈佛大学法学院,并在上方的阶级和你是“不稳定” ,但如果你参加5个不同的小大学毕业前,你是“良好的基础” ?

    If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you “don’t have any real leadership experience”?如果您花3年作为一个辉煌的社会组织者,成为历史上第一位黑人总统的哈佛大学法学院审查,建立一个选民登记150000登记新选民,花费12年作为宪法法律教授,花费8年作为一个国家的参议员代表一个地区拥有超过750000人,担任该州参议院的卫生和人类服务委员会,花费4年在美国参议院代表一个国家的13万人,而赞助131法案和服务于外交事务,环境和公共工程和退伍军人事务委员会,你“没有任何实际领导经验” ?

    If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive?如果您的总恢复是:当地天气的女孩, 4年的市议会和6岁的市长镇不到7000人, 20个月的州长只有65.000万人,那么你有资格成为全国第二个最高级别的执行?

    If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re “not a real Christian”?如果你已经结婚,同样的女子19岁,同时提高二美丽的女儿,都在新教教堂,你“不是一个真正的基督徒” ?

    If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, left your disfigured wife and married heiress Cindy the next month, you’re a true Christian?如果你骗你的第一任妻子与丰富的继承人,离开您毁容的妻子和辛迪结婚的继承人下个月,你是一个真正的基督徒吗?

    If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are “eroding the fiber of society”?如果你教负责,年龄适当的性教育,包括正确使用节育,你是“削弱了光纤的社会” ?

    If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re “very responsible”?如果,而省长,你坚决主张只有禁欲,没有其他选择性教育在所在州的学校系统,而您的女儿未婚少女怀孕的最后,您“非常负责” ?

    If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your “family’s values don’t represent America’s”?如果你的妻子是一位毕业于哈佛大学的律师是谁给了立场,有声望的律师事务所工作,从而为她的内心城市社区,然后给予该行动以提高家庭,您的“家庭价值并不代表美国s “吗?

    If your husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and was once a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is “extremely admirable”?如果您的丈夫是绰号'第一多德' ,其中至少有一个弥散的信念,没有大学教育,谁没有登记投票,直至25岁,并曾组的成员,主张分裂的阿拉斯加来自美国,您的家庭是“非常钦佩” ?

    Please let me know what I am missing?请让我知道我失踪?

  • Linda Carruth 琳达Carruth Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:43 pm 08年9月25号在下午八时43分

    I guess McCain was correct when he said that he doesn’t understand economics.我猜想是正确的麦凯恩时,他说,他不理解经济学。 He sounds like he’s speaking to kindergarteners from material someone else wrote.他听起来像是他的发言材料幼儿园从别人写道。 Remember, his first response to this was to cancel the debate on Friday so his Republican cronies could pull a fast one on the taxpayers.请记住,他的第一反应,这是取消了上周五的辩论,使他的共和党的亲信拉可以快速之一的纳税人。 Ron Raul knows what he is talking about; however, it is the policy of his party to favor big business/finance rather than those who shoulder the lion’s share of our country’s tax burden.罗恩劳尔知道他在谈论,但它的政策是,他的党有利于大企业/金融,而不是谁承担最大的份额我国的税务负担。 Printing money and borrowing overseas will only add to our 9.6 TRILLION dollar deficit.印刷金钱和借贷的海外只会增加我们的9.6万亿美元的赤字。 There is no bottomless treasure chest from which bailout money may be extracted.没有底的宝藏从救助资金可以提取。 Our grandchildren and great grandchildren will be paying for today’s greed and mismanagement.我们的孙子和曾孙将支付今天的贪婪和管理不善。 Obama, on the other hand, has the right idea as far as taxpayers are concerned, but I’m not sure all he asks is viable given the weight on the dollar.奥巴马,另一方面,有权利主张尽可能纳税人担心,但我不能肯定,他要求是可行的重量给予美元。 But, the guy stepped up.但是,那个步伐。 McCain must have been busy reading My Pet Goat.麦凯恩必须一直忙于阅读我的宠物山羊。

  • Randy Says: 兰迪说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:44 pm 08年9月25号在下午8时44分

    Mrk,默克制药,

    thank you for putting these three videos up…a more stark differentiation between economic views could not have been made clearer.感谢你使这三个视频了...一个更鲜明的区分经济的观点不能作出了明确。

    We have the libertarian/constitutionalist Ron Paul explaining in detail why the dangers of the bail-out could be greater than the risks faced today.我们有自由/宪政保罗详细解释为什么危险的保释出可能大于今天面临的危险。

    In contrast the Marxist Obama talks about protecting the people by giving the government more power and nationalising the financial system of this country.与此相反马克思主义的奥巴马谈到保护人民赋予政府更多的权力和国有化的金融体系这个国家。 Does anyone really bekieve the taxpayer will share in any upside coming from a bail-out?有谁真的bekieve纳税人将分享任何档来自保释出? And does anyone really believe that there will be an upside when government olicy continues to overinflate the dollar’s value while controlling interest rates at less than market rates?也有人真的相信,将有上涨时,政府olicy继续overinflate美元价值的同时控制利率低于市场利率? It is simple economics…and even without understanding this, how can anyone think that big government will not expand to absorb any upside from the bailout?这是简单的经济学... ,甚至不理解这一点,谁又能认为大政府将不会扩大吸收任何上涨的纾困?

    Thirdly we have the quasi-socialist McCain making more sense than the Marxist but still missing the point….neither of the two presidential candidates reference the true problem.第三,我们有准决策社会主义麦凯恩比更有意义的马克思主义,但仍缺少点... 。既不的两位总统候选人参考真正的问题。

    Greed is not the problem.贪婪是没有问题的。

    Fat cats on Wall street is not the problem.猫科动物脂肪在华尔街并不是问题。

    The problem is that when we discarded the gold standard our financial system became based on what people think our currency should be worth…not on what on our productivity is.问题是,当我们丢弃的黄金标准我们的金融体系的基础上成为人们认为我们的货币应该是值得...没有什么对我们的生产力。 This works for a short while, but eventually becomes a nonsense value that ensures the economy stands on the precipice of disaster.此作品一时,但最终成为一个胡说八道的价值,确保经济站在悬崖的灾难。 Well …that precipice is not only bigger today than it was a decade ago, but the ground is falling away from under us.嗯...这悬崖不仅是更大的今天比10年前,但地面是属于下远离我们。

    And the solution is easy (although the execution will result in some significant short term pain for everybody).和解决方案很容易(虽然执行会导致一些重要的短期疼痛为每个人) 。

    The solution?该解决方案? Let the free markets do their job.让自由市场做自己的工作。 Let poor businesses fail.让穷人的企业失败。 Let business people do their thing and get the government out of our lives.让商界人士做他们的事情,让政府出了我们的生活。 Return to the gold standard for currency value.返回到金本位的货币价值。 Define wealth in terms of productivity rather than dollars that have no value.财富的定义方面的生产力,而不是美元,没有任何价值。 Remove all forms of government hand-outs and prevent further growth of the welfare and entitlement society that has destroyed this great country.消除一切形式的政府的施舍,防止进一步增长的福利和权利的社会,已经摧毁了这个伟大的国家。

    Sorry…I am standing on a sopa box now….but the problems will not be solved until the people understand the free ride is over and stand up and say…we will work for what we want…no more handouts!很抱歉...我站在索帕方块现在... 。但问题不会得到解决,直到人们了解免费乘车了,站起来,说...我们将努力为我们想要什么...没有更多的施舍!

    Enough said.够说。 If the poeple truly want this country to return to greatness, they must be prepared to work for it.如果真正想poeple该国返回的伟大,他们必须准备工作。

    Randy兰迪

  • Linda Carruth 琳达Carruth Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pm 08年9月25号在下午8点55分

    shoppingkharma, I was also going to respond to Harry Martin’s uneducated post, but now I don’t have to because you did so beautifully! shoppingkharma ,我还去应对哈里马丁后没有受过教育,但现在我不必因为你这样做漂亮! Thank you.谢谢您。

    But I will say this.不过,我会这样说。 There’sa lot of garbage going around in emails, citing all sorts of incomplete, out of context snippets about Obama.有很多的垃圾到处在电子邮件,引述各种不完整的,断章取义的摘录有关奥巴马。 I guess what sickens me more than these last eight years is how so many people don’t bother to do a little bit of research to uncover the real truth, and yet, they’re allowed to vote.我想我什么sickens以上这些过去八年来是如何使很多人不懒得做一点点研究,以揭示真相,然而,他们获准投票。 Now that’s scary!现在的吓人!

  • Randy Says: 兰迪说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:08 pm 08年9月25号在下午9点08分

    Hey Shoppingkharma.嘿Shoppingkharma 。

    I will tell you what you missed.我会告诉你错过。

    Obama is a Marxist.奥巴马是一篇马克思主义的。

    That is enough to disqualify him as a serious contender as President.这是足够的资格他是一个严重的竞争者担任主席。 Unless of course, you want to live in a Marxist State…and maybe you do?当然,除非你希望生活在一个马克思主义的国家...也许你怎么办呢?

    Or maybe you just don’t understand what that means?或者,也许你只是不明白这意味着什么?

    It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise intelligent people seem to ignore what is right in front of their faces.它从未停止戏弄我怎么否则聪明人似乎忽略什么是正确的前脸。 Must be the messiah syndrome!必须是救世主综合症!

    Randy兰迪

  • Ed Sommers Says: 埃德索莫斯说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:15 pm 08年9月25号在下午9点一刻

    The economic problems facing this country are far too complex for the average citizen to understand.面临的经济问题是这个国家目前过于复杂,普通公民理解。 That’s just a sad fact.这只是一个可悲的事实。 That being the case, we need political leaders capable of being practical, inteligent and communicative.在这种情况下,我们需要政治领导人能以务实,智慧和交际。

    Bush has just about destoyed this country.布什只是destoyed这个国家。 Ron Paul is an idealogue, wedded to the “gold standard”, combined with projecting the image of a rough and tough individualist.保罗是一个idealogue ,结婚的“黄金标准” ,再加上投射的形象,一个粗略的和艰难的个人主义者。 It’s crap.这是废话。 McCain is a desparate, vengeful, nasty guy who could not care less about “the American people”, my friends.麦凯恩是一种绝望,报复,烦人的家伙谁不能不在意“美国人民” ,我的朋友。 Obama is bright, even tempered, realistic, patriotic and sane.奥巴马是光明的,甚至脾气的,现实的,爱国和理智。 Obama is the last chance we may have to keep this country from further decline and more steps toward fascism (or corporatism if that makes you feel better…either term means the same thing- a government controlled by big business.奥巴马是最后的机会,我们可能已经把这个国家的进一步下降和更多的步骤法西斯主义(或社团,如果让你感觉更好...要么长期手段同样的事情,政府控制的大型企业。

  • Kevin 凯文 Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pm 08年9月25号在下午9时18分

    Wow, I’m suprised that anyone still believes all that crap about Obama.哇,我很惊讶,任何人仍然认为所有垃圾约奥巴马。 I don’t want him to be president, but only because I disagree with his politics-not because I believe everything I read on the interwebs.我不想让他成为总统,但只是因为我不同意他的政治,而不是因为我相信我看到的一切就interwebs 。 To the question at hand, Ron Paul really understands what is going on economically.问题在另一方面,保罗真正了解是怎么回事经济。 When this bailout happens, things are only going to get worse.当此纾困情况下,事情只会变得更糟。

  • Linda Carruth 琳达Carruth Says:说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:38 pm 08年9月25号在下午9点38

    Don’t oversell it Randy, we would not, could not, and will not “live in a Marxist state”.不要卖空它兰迪,我们不会,不能,也不会“生活在一个马克思主义的国家” 。

    We live in a Republic, which is “a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them” and our system of government is a democracy with three branches which uses checks and balances so that no one branch has too much power (except for our current President, of course).我们生活在一个共和国,这是“一个国家的最高权力机构中的公民有权投票和行使选出的代表直接或间接由他们”和我们的政府体制是一个民主与三个部门使用制衡,使任何一间分行已经过大的权力(除了我们的现任总统,当然) 。

    Our financial system is socio-capitalism, and if it were purely capitalistic, sure, you wouldn’t have welfare, but you also would not have unemployment benefits, worker’s comp, social security, medicare, medicaid… shall I go on?我们的金融体系是社会资本主义,如果纯粹是资本主义的,肯定的是,你们不会有福利,但你也不会有失业津贴,工人的补偿,社会保障,医疗,医疗救助...我应该去吗? (BTW, medicaid is what pays for your sub-standard nursing home when your pension is taken away from you because of concessions given over the years AFTER you retire!) (生物及毒素武器,医疗救助是为您的支付低于标准的养老院当您的退休金是带走你的让步,因为鉴于多年来在您退休! )

    Or are you so young as to think you’ll never need social security or medicare?还是你这么年轻,以想您再也不需要社会保障或医疗保险? Maybe you won’t.也许你不会的。 I’m not being sarcastic, it’s just that things change, and yes, greed does enter into it.我不是被嘲讽,只是事物的变化,是的,贪婪不进入它。 When I was starting out, there were no IRAs, 401ks, and pension plans weren’ta “given” either.当我开始了,但没有个人退休帐户, 401ks ,以及他们用了养老金计划“ ,因为”不是。 Oh yeah, and you could get by without health insurance and prescription plans because health care was affordable.噢是的,你可以由没有医疗保险和处方计划,因为保健负担得起的。 Health insurance was called “hospitalization” insurance because that was all you needed to cover.医疗保险被称为“住院”保险,因为这是所有你需要支付。

    You are dead on about the gold standard though, as Ron Paul alluded to it when he said the dollar is not backed up.您正在死亡的黄金标准虽然作为保罗提到它时,他说,美元是没有备份。 No one is surprised that came back to bite us.没有人会感到惊讶,回来咬我们。

  • Randy Says: 兰迪说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:39 pm 08年9月25号在下午9点39

    Kevin,凯文

    I couldn’t agree more with you.我完全同意你。

    We, the people, should not care about whether a president is black, white, green or purple with pink polka dots.我们的人民,不应该关心是否有总统是黑色,白色,绿色或紫色与粉红色的波尔卡点。

    We should not care if he can give a well rehearsed speech from a teleprompter.我们不应该照顾,如果他可以让排练讲话以及从teleprompter 。 We should not care about gender, or background (although past decisions gives us a metric to determine character).我们不应该关心性别或背景(虽然过去的决定给了我们一个指标,以确定性质) 。

    What we should care about is the policies…do they make sense, does the contender understand the realities of life, does he have the intestinal fortitude to make the right decisions even if it is against his best interests or perhaps even alienates voters.我们应该关心的是政策...他们使某种意义上说,没有竞争者理解的生活现实,他是否有肠道毅力,作出正确的决定,即使是对他的最大利益甚至疏远了选民。

    It is time for this country to really look hard at itself…and elect someone who doesn’t pander to the masses or necessarily follow the popularist notion that everyone has the rights to an easy life (this is not a bithright as some people suggest).现在是时候了,这个国家真正艰苦的寻找自己...和选举某人谁不迎合群众或一定按照popularist概念,每个人都有权利轻松的生活(这不是一个bithright如一些人建议) 。

    Unfortunately,the two remaining presidential contenders differ only by the degree of their economic tendencies.不幸的是,剩下的两名总统竞争者只有通过不同程度的经济趋势。 In truth, the only difference between them is how quickly this country will decline under their leadership.事实上,只有两者之间的差别是如何迅速该国将减少他们的领导下。

    Of course, Congress has a lot to do with the ultimate direction…and the current Congress has been usurped by liberals who are no more than power hungry degenerates who don’t care about the people but care strongly about maintaining their power base.当然,美国国会已经有很多事情要做的最终方向...和目前的国会已经篡夺了自由派谁不超过耗电退化谁不关心照顾的人,但强烈的维护自己的权力基础。 The republicans in congress have moved further to the left with each passing year, and, in order to maintain votes have followed, and in some cases led, the people of this country into a state where the people believe they should have everything they want regardless of whether they earn it or not.在国会中的共和党议员已进一步左侧一年比一年和,以保持表决之后,在某些情况下导致这个国家的人民成为国家的人民相信,他们应该有他们想要的一切,无论他们是否获得与否。

    Where is John Galt?如果是约翰高尔特? I think I will go live with him because Atlas is about to shrug!我想我会去同他生活阿特拉斯因为即将耸肩!

    Randy兰迪

  • Randy Says: 兰迪说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 9:50 pm 08年9月25号在下午9点50分

    Hi Linda,您好琳达

    thanks for the reasoned and pleasant response.感谢的理由和愉快的反应。 A real highlight of my day…:)一个真正的突出我的一天... : )

    I do not believe it is the governments responsibility to provide retirement benefits, or health care, or unemployment benefits.我不认为这是政府的责任,提供退休福利,或保健,或失业救济金。

    Those are my responsibilities and mine alone.这些都是我的责任和防雷单独。

    Where does entitlement stop?凡不享受停下来? Maybe the government should provide car insurance for me?也许,政府应该提供汽车保险吗? Or maybe property insurance in case something happens and my house is destroyed?或者财产保险的情况下发生什么事和我的房子被摧毁? Or someone too lazy to work steals my stuff …should the government bail me out?或有人懒得工作抢断我的东西...政府应保释我出去?

    ok..so..get off that soapbox, Randy….lol玉..所以..下车的肥皂箱,兰迪... 。上海

    I know you understand what I am saying.我知道你明白我的意思。

    As for the system of electing government in this country (and most democratic countries), it too is broken.至于选举制度,政府在这个国家(和最民主的国家) ,它也被打破了。

    When approximately 40% of the voters are committed to one party and 40% committed to the other, and nothing is going to change that…then the fate of this country is held in the hands of just 20% of the voters.当大约40 %的选民都致力于一方和40 %致力于其他,并没有打算改变这一...然后的命运,这个国家举行了手中的只有20 %的选民。 These “independant” are also the easiest to “buy off” with promises of government handouts etc. Not all independants can be bought, but enough can that the power base is preserved by whichever party offers the most bounty.这些“独立”也最容易“收买” ,承诺政府施舍等,并非所有independants可以购买,但可以足够的权力基础,是维护党的为准,提供了最赏金。

    Call this cynical…but I am old enough and widely travelled enough to see what it is…and honest enough to know that it is a real problem.呼叫这个玩世不恭的...但我老得足以和广泛走访足以见它是什么...和诚实足以知道,这是一个真正的问题。

    The only way to solve this is for the people to really take control, stop being automatons and actually think about their votes.唯一的办法来解决,这是为人民,真正采取控制,停止机器人,实际上想想他们的投票。

    JFK was wrong when he said “Ask not what your country can do for you.肯尼迪机场是错误时,他说: “不要问你的国家能为你做。 Ask what you can do for your country.”请问你可以为你的国家做。 “

    What he should have said is “Ask what you can do for yourself, and then your country will be able to move forward”.他应该说是“问问你们能做的事自己的,然后你的国家将能够向前推进” 。

    Cheers干杯

    Randy兰迪

  • Mark Flavin Says: 马克文说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm 08年9月25号在下午11时31分

    I gotta say I still find it shocking that it even matters what religion a candidate is and that people still seem to believe Obama is a muslim even after the whole REVEREND Wright episode but the bottom line is this Obama & McCain will provide more of the same:俺得说,我仍然觉得震惊,它甚至什么宗教问题的候选人是人民仍然似乎认为奥巴马是穆斯林甚至在整个牧师赖特首发,但底线是奥巴马和麦凯恩将提供更多的同样:

    Increased Spending增加开支
    Same Foreign Policy同样的外交政策
    And No REAL Change to the monetary system.并没有真正变化的货币制度。

    I really do wish there was someone like Ron Paul here in Europe.我真的希望有像保罗在欧洲。 Someone who actually understands economics & knows that simply throwing money at a problem wont fix it.有人谁实际理解经济学与知道,只要钱扔在一个问题的习惯修复。

    That’s my two cents.这是我的两分钱。

    Mark马克

  • CH Says: 甲烷说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm 08年9月25号在下午11点42分

    I believe Ron Paul has the best answer to the situtation.我相信保罗最好的答案, situtation 。 Considering how many times do we need to be lied to by the President of the US before we realize most of what he has done has been for his own personal gain.考虑到有多少次,我们需要撒谎的美国总统之前,我们认识什么是他做的一直为自己谋取私利。 Not for the American people.而不是美国人民。 Look at the economy now compared to where we where in 1999 even 2000 wasn’t bad.看看现在的经济相比,我们在1999年甚至2000年不坏。 But for almost 9 years (will be 9 on 12/31/08) that Bush has been president of USA our country has gone down farther than any other president has ever been able to in the past.但是,近9年(将于9 12/31/08 ) ,布什总统已经对美国我们的国家已经下降远超过任何其他总统至今没有人能够在过去。 Besides there is no way I will vote for a muslim (Obama) who is against America & what it stands for no matter lies he tries to use to get people to believe he is honestly for Americans.除了没有办法我会去投票的一个穆斯林(奥巴马)谁是对美国和它所代表的,无论是他尝试使用让人们相信他是诚实的美国人。 What a joke that is.一个玩笑什么是。 To many people just don’t want to accept the fact America is already in a depression & we’re steadly going down hill.许多人只是不想接受这样的事实是美国已经在抑郁症与我们steadly下山去。

  • Mike H Says: 迈克H说:
    September 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm 08年9月25号在下午11时51分

    As a Brit watching with growing horror and despair as USA goes down the pan dragging the rest of us with it I am appalled at this huge amount of money that is to be being paid by the US tax payers.作为一个英国人看日益增长的恐怖和绝望的美国关闭泛拖其余的我们,我感到惊讶在这个庞大的资金,要支付由美国纳税人。 So much is not being put out on your main stream media (MSM).这么多没有被扑灭的主要流媒体(的MSM ) 。
    http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blog/2008/09/a-financial-controlled-demolition-just-like-911/

  • Jeff Fisher 杰夫费希尔 Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 12:03 am 08年九月26日在上午12时03分

    This has been a borrowed economy for the last 30 years.这一直是借来的经济在过去的30年。 The pyramid form that our financial sector as based on has provided huge revenues for the government.Of course our government wants more of the same.金字塔的形式,我们的金融部门的基础上提供了巨大的收入government.Of当然,我们政府希望更多的相同。 This faked economy has been at the expense of children first and people that actually work in a way that creates real genuine wealth ie a natural resource combined with a human resource.这种假冒经济一直以牺牲儿童的第一和人民的实际工作方式,创造真正的真正的财富即自然资源结合的人力资源。 It’s very sad to see how ignorant greed is, and how our population as a whole has been duped into thinking that there was sense in borrowing an economy.这是非常可悲的,看看无知的贪婪,以及如何我们的人口作为一个整体已被骗思想,有意识的经济借款。 The ego has had it’s way in America and the results are predictable when the ego is involved.自我了它在美国的方式和结果是可以预见的自我参与。 The ego is the fool in all of us.自我是在愚弄我们所有的人。

    Of course the bailout is as wrong as the borrowed economy.当然,救助是错了,因为借来的经济。 The bailout is spending borrowed money to prop up the root of our economic problem.在救助支出是借钱来支撑的根源,我们的经济问题。

    Families haven’t had time for each other for decades now and children have been left to fend for themselves.家庭没有时间彼此几十年来现在和儿童被留下来照顾自己。 This has been a disgusting three decades in the history of our country and I’m glad the laws of economics are finally prevailing over the ignorance of greed.这是一个令人厌恶的三十年来在我国历史上,我很高兴的法律经济学终于战胜了愚昧和贪婪。

    This is a win-win situation as no matter what direction the policy makers go in this bailout dilemma, the end result is the end of the shell game.这是一个双赢的局面是,无论什么方向的决策者在这去拯救困境,最终的结果是结束的壳游戏。 In other words, checkmate…….now let’s get back to taking care of our children for a change.换句话说,死... ... 。现在让我们回到照顾我们的孩子们的变化。

    As is always the case there is nothing to fear but fear itself, so here’s to the healing of our world and the good that will follow this major lesson for us all.作为始终是案件没有任何恐惧,但恐惧本身,所以这里的愈合,我们的世界和良好的,将遵循这一重大的教训了我们所有人。

  • Davidl Davidl Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 1:39 am 08年九月26日在上午01点39分

    Let them go down!!!让他们下去! I pay my bills and credit cards and I get nothing except more taxes and regulations..我要向我的帐单和信用卡和我没有什么更多的除税和规章..

    PS for you Obamaniacs, Examine what Illinos and Chicago are like..聚苯乙烯为您Obamaniacs ,检查什么Illinos和芝加哥一样.. More people shot in Chicago than in Iraq.更多的人枪杀在芝加哥比在伊拉克。 Highest taxes in the United States.最高税率在美国。 Bulldozing 500 homes in the name of progress..推土500家以进步的名义.. Illinois’ Democratic governor in likely to be indicted.伊利诺伊州民主党州长可能被起诉。 (he was a reformer).Hundreds of politicians and city workers sent to prison. (他是一个改革者) 。数百名政界人士和城市工人送进监狱。 Obama flourished in this system and nary a peep about ethics and or reform..奥巴马在这一蓬勃发展系统和冠状动脉偷看的职业道德和或改革.. He was a coat holder.他是一个大衣持有人。

    Illinois has $40 billion in debt, massive tax increases and no new jobs created in four years.伊利诺伊州有400亿美元债务,大规模增加税收和没有创造新的就业机会在四年。

    Obama was elected to help Illinois and has spent two years preaching he is the answer.奥巴马当选为伊利诺伊州和帮助已花了两年时间,他鼓吹的答案。 Spare us and the USA备件我们和美国

  • bobandkaye bobandkaye Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 5:44 am 08年九月26日在上午05点44

    Mark, who you see as the “voice of reason” would seem to be dependent on your worldview.马克,你看到谁的“声音的理由”似乎是依赖于你的世界观。 At this point in history, there really is no such thing as ‘free market capitalism.’ A free market can only exist when the participants thereto actually have an equal stake.在这一点上的历史,确实没有什么'自由市场资本主义。自由市场只能存在时,与会者就此实际上有同等的股份。 Perhaps in the days of actual marketplaces, where the guy selling the oranges was in direct competition with the other four guys selling the oranges, the market could actually set the price.也许在未来的日子实际的市场,那里的家伙卖桔子是直接的竞争与其他四个家伙卖桔子,市场实际上可以设定价格。 But when corporations dominate the marketplace, as they now do, it can hardly be considered a free market.但是,当企业占主导地位的市场,因为他们现在这样做,就很难被认为是自由市场。 In fact, one of our greatest US presidents, Abraham Lincoln, feared this corporate takeover as a greater threat to our nation than the Civil War.事实上,我们的一个最大的美国总统亚伯拉罕林肯,担心收购本公司作为一个更大的威胁比我们国家的内战。 That is to say, at this point in our nation’s history, the ideal of laissez faire capitalism has degenerated into exactly what our founding fathers so feared, and what they believed had been the downfall of Europe and the need to establish a New World: the pooling of the wealth in the hands of the few.这就是说,在这一点上我们国家的历史,理想的自由放任资本主义已沦为正是我们的创始如此担心,和他们认为已经衰落的欧洲和需要建立一个新的世界:汇集的财富掌握在少数。 At this point, the distribution of global wealth is at about 95% in the hands of 5% of the population.在这一点上,分布全球的财富在95 %左右掌握在5 %的人口。 In the USA, according to recent studies, 1% of the population controls 35% of the wealth.在美国,根据最近的研究, 1 %的人口控制35 %的财富。 And the bottom half of the economic scale controls about 2.5% of the wealth.和下半部的经济规模约2.5 %的财富。 If we would like Utopia, this ain’t it!如果我们想的乌托邦,这不是它! So it all depends: do we want a more equitable distribution of the wealth, or are we okay with what amounts to the old Lord of the Manor/serf breakdown of asset distribution?所以,这一切都取决于:我们希望有一个更公平分配财富,还是我们可以同金额,勋爵岁的庄园/农奴细目资产分配? We are about to define ourselves in this upcoming presidential election.我们将确定自己在这一即将举行的总统选举。 So.因此。 Who is the “voice of reason”?谁是“理智的声音” ? Well, Mark: what world do you want?那么,马克:什么世界,你想干什么?

  • Vanoie Ball Vanoie球 Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 7:06 am 08年九月26日在上午七时06

    “IN THE NAME OF GREED” “在贪婪的名字”

    People are so hung up on money “and POWER” they don’t care about anything.人民是如此的挂钱“和权力”他们不关心任何事情。 They use the power to get what they want (control).他们使用的权力得到他们想要什么(对照组) 。

    Some Politicians go unchecked since they have the “POWER” and buddy system of other politicians “hand shakers”.一些政治家去制止,因为它们的“权力”好友系统和其他政治家“ ,手摇动。 ” I will do this for you if you let me do this or that!我将做到这一点你如果你让我干这干那!

    They are using the tax payer trust in them to do the job they should be doing.他们使用的是纳税人的信任他们做的工作,他们应该做的。 Some selfishly vote themselves a raise (just because they can and who’s going to confront them)?一些自私投票本身就是提高(仅仅是因为他们可以和谁去对付它们) ? Even if it means the money they got could have been used to keep the system going.即使这意味着他们的钱有可能被用来使系统去。 Thing of it is very, very few if anyone in Government are there to help America!事情是非常,非常少,如果任何人有政府帮助美国!
    We “America” are being taxed to death.我们“美国”正在征税死亡。 America was build for the people to be free from taxes.美国是建立人民免于纳税。 But I know it takes money to run the Government!但我知道它需要钱,政府运行! But with the educated people we have in America you mean to tell me we can’t come up with a better system.但是,受过教育的人,我们已经在美国你的意思是要告诉我,我们不能拿出一个更好的制度。
    I do believe that if “GREED” was left out and set it up the system for America (for the people).我相信,如果“贪婪”被排除在外,并设置该系统对美国(为人民) 。 The Politicians don’t have to worry about there retirement plan they’re going to use any of that money for anything else.政治家不必担心有退休计划,他们将使用任何金钱为别的。 If they were in the same boat we’re in I assure you they would come up with something.如果他们在同一条船上,我们是在我向你保证,他们会拿出一些东西。 So since the tax payers are funding it we the tax payers should benefit too!因此,自纳税人的资金,我们纳税人应当受益呢! In other words they can star with making things fair!换句话说,他们可以使明星与公平的事情! That I believe that that’s what every American expects from people we put in office with our trust in them.我相信这是每一个美国人人民的期望,我们在办公室,我们信任他们。
    The way (whom ever set-up) the tax system is set up is when business has a lost tax payers loose.的方式(其中以往任何时候都设置)的税收制度是建立在企业失去了纳税人松散。 Lets say when a person starts to default in paying monthly credit card(s), the Credit card company penalizes the card holder as much as possible putting card hold in more of a debt knowing he cant or want pay.(Not to say that a person don’t want to pay there debt they do).They’re just backed into a corner.) This give the Credit card company of a larger debt to charge off for a lost write off.可以说,当一个人开始默认情况下,在支付每月的信用卡(星期日) ,信用卡公司惩罚持卡人尽可能把信用卡持有更多的债务知道他不能或想要工资。 (不说,人不想支付债务,他们有这样做) 。他们只是备份到一个角落里。 )这给信用卡公司一个更大的债务收取了丢失注销。 They create this virtual lost.他们创造这个虚拟丢失。 To off set there Actual gains where there’re legally raping card holder and tax papers with the interest rate that they were allowed to charge, by politicians hand shakers.要关闭一套有实际收益那里是合法持卡人强奸和税务文件,利息,他们被允许收取,一方面政客呼风唤雨。

    Also, another set-up is Mortgages two fold bubble.此外,另一个设定抵押权2倍的泡沫。 The false since of tax right offs.自虚假的纳税权利取舍。 Oh you get to right off the interest paid out.哦你去了权所支付的利息了。 And the appreciation of your home.和赞赏你回家。 What most people do is use there home to get money out for retirement and or pay bills off etc. Next thing you know you lose it.什么多数人选择在家使用有获得资金,为退休和支付帐单或关闭等下一步的事你知道你失去它。
    Lets set it up to give the people an incentive to pay there homes off and keep it in the family.可以设置,使人民的奖励有支付房屋起飞和保持它在家庭中。 To rent, ( use the money for there retirement etc) or let there kids live in it.为了租金, (使用的资金有退休等) ,或让那里的孩子生活在它。

    Now the incentive for the GOVERNMENT to do this is (This is what I would do if I was President and had to pay for People’s 1.Sickness expenses (drugs, hospital etc)..现在的奖励,政府这样做(这就是我想如果我是总统,并支付人民1.Sickness费用(药品,医院等) ..
    2. 2 。 Living quarters, 3.宿舍, 3 。 Food (food stamps) 4.粮食(食物券) 4 。 ETC.其他手续。 For everyone of these items每个人对这些项目的
    The more you help the people to take care of these items the less GOV haste to pay out of the taxes.越多,您帮助的人照顾这些项目较少政务匆忙支付的税款。

    Now for Insurance to cover the Sickness expenses, drugs hospital etc. The GOV and whom else, is afraid that you are going to benefit from insurance that you are limited to 80% 20% rule.现在的保险,以支付费用的疾病,毒品医院等政务和其他人,是怕你会受益于保险,你是有限的,以80 % 20 %规则。 One being that gee heaven for bid insurance companies have to pay 100% to 120% of a person’s illness and or sickness.一个是,佳音天堂出价保险公司必须支付100 %至120 % ,一个人的疾病,或疾病。 When a person get sick and or has an illness cost him and or her 120% parking and all the unforeseen related to getting well.当一个人生病或者有一个生病的成本他或她的120 % ,停车和所有相关的意外做好。 So why not spread the bearded between 2,3,4,5… insurance companies.那么,为什么不扩散之间的胡须2,3,4,5 ...保险公司。 Also, to give the person and or families an incentive to carry insurance is to give them a 110% right off.另外,给个人和或家庭的奖励进行保险是给他们一个110 %正确了。 That means if I pay $100 for my insurance I get a right off of $110 .这意味着,如果我支付100美元的保险,我收到了右从110美元。

    Now for taxes it’sa waste of time put into collecting taxes.现在,税收这是浪费时间投入收税。 We could cut taxes by not having to pay IRS people to do what it is that they do (you know all that fear they put into u)s.我们可以减税,而不必支付国税局的人做它是什么,他们这样做(你知道所有的恐惧,他们投入ü )条 And automate the collections by when you spend the money some how you pay taxes.并自动集合当你钱花一些您如何纳税。 More to come let me know what you think if this.更多来让我知道你想,如果这一点。 Next is about stopping at red lights.下一步是停在红灯。 And the theft of inventions.和盗窃的发明。 Lord God is our foundations.上帝是我们的基础。

  • Slavica Slavica Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am 08年九月26日在上午11时22分

    I come from a different country and probably social surrounding-Serbia /exYugoslavia/but doesn’t matter when people life, happiness and progress is about.I am honestly worried with everything is going on all over the world.I am frightened of possibility a great Dragon swallow *little* lives of *common*people.Too much power and wealth in hands of a group of people leave millions of population on mercy and disfavor of individuals.I am sorry for saying it looks like we have no courage to achieve what want and what deserve-happy life.I read here,you ask yourself is Obama a Muslim,even set in motion questions of Socialism,but my advice is:ask yourself what policy carried out your country in the last 20 years,why America was engaged in Wars/Kosovo and Iraq/it was big mistake,who had benefit from these wars,probably not you who are here now,because you are a nice ,good person,having your dreams and hopes,love people all around the world and believe in the better feature.I am like you.我来自一个不同的国家和可能的社会环境,塞尔维亚/ exYugoslavia /但并不无论何时人民生活,幸福和进步是很诚实about.I担心一切正在发生的一切感到害怕world.I的可能性一大龙燕*小*生活* *共同people.Too大的权力和财富的手中,有一群人离开数以百万计的人口的仁慈和不赞成的individuals.I很抱歉说,看起来,我们没有实现的勇气什么要什么值得快乐life.I阅读这里,你问问自己是一个穆斯林奥巴马,即使启动了社会主义的问题,但我的忠告是:问问自己什么样的政策进行了贵国在过去20年来,为什么美国从事星球大战/科索沃和伊拉克/这是很大的错误,谁曾受益于这些战争中,可能没有谁是你现在在这里,因为你是一个很好,很好的人,让您的梦想和希望,爱人民在世界各地并相信在更好地feature.I很喜欢你。
    I believe is very important what course America take now,destiny of my country and whole world depends on that.我认为是非常重要的当然是美国采取现在,我的命运的国家和整个世界取决于此。

    I wish you could braver and understand you can make a difference,don’t allow others decide instead .I am afraid,if America goes on /as in the past/it would be wrong for all of us.我希望你能勇敢和理解,您可以有所作为,不允许其他人而不是决定。我很害怕,如果美国继续/因为在过去的/这将是错误的我们所有的人。

    ps;right decision is one which doesn’t hit you ps的;正确的决定是一个不打你

  • Elaine Says: 伊莱恩说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pm 08年九月26日在下午2点05分

    For the voices of sanity, you might like to read the article at对于理智的声音,您可能会喜欢阅读文章 http://www.opednews.com/articles/IT-S-THE-DERIVATIVES-STUP-by-Ellen-Brown-080918-354.html

    Ellen Brown is the author of the comprehensive 500+ Page study of the “Web of Debt”, which provides the historical background of the creation of the FED.埃伦布朗是作者的全面500 +页的研究“网络的债务” ,其中规定的历史背景创造美联储。 Ron Paul bases his decisions on this history,(not on Ellen’s book!) as well as the Austrian von Mises economics.保罗基地他的决定就这一历史, (不是海伦的书! )以及奥地利的冯米塞斯经济学。 You can find a copy of the book at你可以找到这本书在
    http://www.webofdebt.com (I am not connected with this at all). (我不是与此有关的所有) 。

    It is fascinating that we have a repetition of post 9/11.这是迷人的,我们已经重复后9 / 11 。 A “grave crisis”, “immediate action” required, “total carte blanche power” to the Treasury Secretary.一个“严重危机” , “立即行动”的要求, “总无限权力”的财政部长。 No time for deep discussion of problem and/or solutions.没有时间进行深入讨论的问题和/或解决方案。 Hopefully, there are still some in Congress who are holding up proceedings by asking pertinent questions.我们希望,还有一些谁在国会举行了诉讼,要求有关的问题。 Professor Meltzer of Mellon U - interviewed on PBS - has also completely rejected the need to bail-out these scoundrels, pointing out that Mitsubishi Corp - and now Warren Buffett - have purchased Billions of dollars of stock in Goldmach Sachs - so why should the “taxpayer” once again foot the bill?教授策的梅隆ü -采访了此项殊荣-也完全拒绝,需要保释出这些坏蛋指出,三菱公司-现在巴菲特-已购买了数十亿美元的股票G o ld mach高盛-所以为什么要“纳税人“再次买单?

    Have you seen Aaron Russo’s FED exposure Video on YouTube; or any of the publications/newsletters of Restore the Republic which is an organization spawned by Russo’s untimely death?你见过阿龙鲁索美联储暴露视频在YouTube上;或任何出版物/通讯还原共和国这是一个组织产生的俄的不幸去世?

    Let’s hope this time Congress does not sleep on the job!让我们希望这一次国会不睡觉的工作!

  • Lisann Lisann Says:说:
    September 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pm 08年九月26日在下午7点34分

    There is no accountability not on wall street, not with the Federal Reserve, not in Washington.没有问责制不是在华尔街,而不是与美国联邦储备,而不是在华盛顿举行。 Ron Paul makes sense.保罗是很有意义的。 The other 2 presidential workerbees are nothing but smoke and mirrors.其他2日的总统workerbees只是障眼法。 I just listened to Rep Marci Kaptur state her proposal for a bailout of a different nature…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32dsWhile on the surface,she tells it like it is, at this point the corruption in America has gone too far and I don’t think any amount of “damage control” whether for the welfare of America’s working class, or Paulson’s welfare for the rich, will spare any of us from the turbulence ahead.我刚才听了代表马尔奇卡普图尔状态她提出的纾困具有不同的性质... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32dsWhile表面上,她告诉它就像是,在这一点上的腐败美国已经走得太远了,我不认为任何数量的“损害控制”是否福利的美国工人阶级,或保尔森的福利丰富,将不惜任何我们从前面的动荡。 Just like the Titanic, America is going under, hook, line and sinker.就像泰坦尼克号,美国正在下,钩,线和下坠球。

  • Vanoie Ball Vanoie球 Says:说:
    September 28th, 2008 at 2:28 pm 08年9月28日在下午2时28分

    Are they using taxes they already (or to be) collected?他们使用税,他们已经(或即将)收集? And what was this (already collected) money collected for?是什么今(已收集)收集到的钱? Will this taxed money have to be replaced?这将纳税钱必须更换? To actually use it for what it was collected for!实际使用它的这是什么收集! This is typical of politicians to rob “Tax Payer” to pay “Politicians mistakes.这是典型的政客们剥夺“纳税人”支付“政治家的错误。

    So instead of borrowing money from other countries.因此,不是借钱来自其他国家。 With out paper money that’s not backed by gold.随着出了钱,不支持的金牌。 The only thing that we have of value is our land (US soil) and that’s worth more that gold.只是,我们的价值是我们的土地(美国本土) ,而且值得更多的金牌。

    Well what I am getting at is: Since politicians don’t mind paying all this interest we owe to other countries.那么我所得到的是:由于政治家不介意付出这一切的利益我们应该给其他国家。 Why not set it up so that American ONLY can invest in our DEBT. Pay the interest back to the people that build this country. That way if the government defaults on the loan at least America will still be OWNED by the Americans. The more money that the American people have the more we can help the foreign countries when they help like we have been doing. Why is it that politician’s are so afraid that the American people may prosper!

  • Brian Cunningham Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Hi from a Kiwi (New Zealander)

    Ron Paul is the only one that has spoken with any degree of truth. The others are all like sheep being herded by dogs. New Zealand has gone through the type of pain that Ron Paul says will last approx a year and has come out stronger for it.

    I urge the American people to say NO to the bail-out and stand firm. I also urge the investors of all companies to question the need to pay top executives exorbitant salaries topped up with through the roof bonuses.

    Perhaps your Congress and Senate should be examining the monetary system instead of propping it up at your expense.

    Tell your representatives to vote NO.

  • Kelly Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    I may be off on this but my view is that if I went to the gov’t as an American Citizen and said I was in debt, which thanks to the rich and famous most of us are, do you think they would bail me out????? I’m thinking not. So all’s I can say is because of their debt gas has gone down and now I have some extra money in my pocket to do other things with! Why should the rich get bailed out while the rest of us are left to suffer!!

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